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LingMiracle
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Postby LingMiracle » March 16th, 2008 4:18 am

I have a problem with all this 들어가다, 들어오다, 돌아가다, 돌아오다, 다녀오다, etc. There are so many ways these words can mean in terms of returning to certain destinations, buildings, or countries. Now Is there such thing as 다녀가다? If so, is there an underlying difference between these six phrases? I constantly see 돌아가다 as a form of "to turn" when driving.

설명을 할 수 있는 사람 있나요? :D

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Postby manyakumi » March 16th, 2008 5:14 am

Hi, LingMiracle씨
Let me explain your question.

We can beak these down as,

들다 + 가다/오다
돌다 + 가다/오다
다니다 + 가다/오다

가다 means 'go' and 오다 means 'come' but they have some different usages in english.
When the object is moving from near by you to somewhere, you would say 가다.
In the opposite, the object is moving from somewhere to your side, then 오다.

At this point, you can make some compositions.

들어가다 (to get in from outside) - you must be outside
들어오다 (to get in to inside where you're at) - you must be inside

돌아가다 (to get back to the object were originally at) - you must be remaining
돌아오다 (to get back) - can be used both you and the other object

다녀가다 (to attend and get back so the object is not here anymore) - you must be remaining
다녀오다 (to attend and get back) - can be used both you and the other object

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Postby LingMiracle » March 16th, 2008 7:46 am

manyakumi wrote:Hi, LingMiracle씨
Let me explain your question.

We can beak these down as,

들다 + 가다/오다
돌다 + 가다/오다
다니다 + 가다/오다

가다 means 'go' and 오다 means 'come' but they have some different usages in english.
When the object is moving from near by you to somewhere, you would say 가다.
In the opposite, the object is moving from somewhere to your side, then 오다.

At this point, you can make some compositions.

들어가다 (to get in from outside) - you must be outside
들어오다 (to get in to inside where you're at) - you must be inside

돌아가다 (to get back to the object were originally at) - you must be remaining
돌아오다 (to get back) - can be used both you and the other object

다녀가다 (to attend and get back so the object is not here anymore) - you must be remaining
다녀오다 (to attend and get back) - can be used both you and the other object


아~ 구렇군요~ 이해가 됐어요. 자, 도와주셔서 감가합니다. =) 그냥 민식라고 하세요.

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Postby javiskefka » March 16th, 2008 8:38 am

Also, for turn, you may be thinking of 돌리다. This is the causative form of the 돌다 and saying "[some direction]으로 도려 가다" means "turn [direction] and go"

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Postby manyakumi » March 16th, 2008 11:13 am

천만에요, 민식씨
만나서 반갑습니다. :D

그리고 javiskefka씨의 설명 중, '돌려 가다'는 주로 이렇게 사용해요.

나는 학교로 가다가 중간에 발길을 돌려 집으로 왔다.
-> 나는 학교로 가다가 중간에 집으로 돌아왔다. (O)
-> 나는 학교로 가다가 중간에 집으로 돌려 왔다. (X)

바람이 부는 쪽으로 방향을 돌려서 갔다.
-> 바람이 부는 쪽으로 돌아서 갔다. (O)
-> 바람이 부는 쪽으로 돌려 갔다. (X)

because 돌리다 is the causative form so the object should be shown.

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Postby the_haunted_boy » March 17th, 2008 12:58 am

Wasn't this in the last audio blog? Or am I getting it mixed up with something else?

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Postby hyunwoo » March 24th, 2008 12:17 pm

the_haunted_boy wrote:Wasn't this in the last audio blog? Or am I getting it mixed up with something else?


Exactly!! :-)

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