Comments on: Korean Culture Class #5 - Politeness Levels http://www.koreanclass101.com/2007/12/04/korean-culture-class-6-politeness-levels/ Learn Korean with Free Podcasts Thu, 17 May 2012 13:45:09 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.11 by: llallaful http://www.koreanclass101.com/2007/12/04/korean-culture-class-6-politeness-levels/#comment-50565 Sat, 18 Sep 2010 10:36:00 +0000 http://www.koreanclass101.com/2007/12/04/korean-culture-class-6-politeness-levels/#comment-50565 i cant open the file i cant open the file

]]> by: 선현우(Hyunwoo Sun) http://www.koreanclass101.com/2007/12/04/korean-culture-class-6-politeness-levels/#comment-27780 Mon, 27 Apr 2009 01:07:14 +0000 http://www.koreanclass101.com/2007/12/04/korean-culture-class-6-politeness-levels/#comment-27780 Jeroen :) Like Austin said, there isn't a straightforward answer to that. :) If I see a kid who's about 10 years old, though, I would definitely use 반말 :D but from Middle school up, I wouldn't use 반말 to them because they are old enough to be 'respected' as a social individual :) Jeroen :)

Like Austin said, there isn’t a straightforward answer to that. :) If I see a kid who’s about 10 years old, though, I would definitely use 반말 :D

but from Middle school up, I wouldn’t use 반말 to them because they are old enough to be ‘respected’ as a social individual :)

]]> by: Austin (오민) http://www.koreanclass101.com/2007/12/04/korean-culture-class-6-politeness-levels/#comment-27709 Sat, 25 Apr 2009 18:46:43 +0000 http://www.koreanclass101.com/2007/12/04/korean-culture-class-6-politeness-levels/#comment-27709 @Jeroen Great question... and there isn't really a straightforward answer. 반말 is appropriate when talking to kids individually in every case. But often teachers will use 존댓말 when addressing the whole group or asking the class a question. However, if the teacher is angry, and trying to discipline the whole class for being loud, or for doing poorly on a test, the teacher will likely use 반말. The letter I wrote to my students before I left Korea was in standard level And, even individually, 존댓말 can be used, it just depends on the precise tone you want to communicate. @Jeroen

Great question… and there isn’t really a straightforward answer.

반말 is appropriate when talking to kids individually in every case. But often teachers will use 존댓말 when addressing the whole group or asking the class a question. However, if the teacher is angry, and trying to discipline the whole class for being loud, or for doing poorly on a test, the teacher will likely use 반말. The letter I wrote to my students before I left Korea was in standard level

And, even individually, 존댓말 can be used, it just depends on the precise tone you want to communicate.

]]> by: Jeroen http://www.koreanclass101.com/2007/12/04/korean-culture-class-6-politeness-levels/#comment-27698 Sat, 25 Apr 2009 12:52:31 +0000 http://www.koreanclass101.com/2007/12/04/korean-culture-class-6-politeness-levels/#comment-27698 What about when you speak to children? Like.. I suppose if you're speaking to a whole group you'd use standard, whether you know them or not? What about if you speak to one kid that you've never seen before, use intimate? I'm 20 years old. What about when you speak to children? Like.. I suppose if you’re speaking to a whole group you’d use standard, whether you know them or not? What about if you speak to one kid that you’ve never seen before, use intimate? I’m 20 years old.

]]> by: The KoreanClass101.com Blog http://www.koreanclass101.com/2007/12/04/korean-culture-class-6-politeness-levels/#comment-26142 Mon, 30 Mar 2009 20:42:20 +0000 http://www.koreanclass101.com/2007/12/04/korean-culture-class-6-politeness-levels/#comment-26142 [...] Essentially, this is the socially appropriate form of language that is used depending on the situation. Think “Please” and “Thank you” times a million. [...] […] Essentially, this is the socially appropriate form of language that is used depending on the situation. Think “Please” and “Thank you” times a million. […]

]]> by: 선현우 http://www.koreanclass101.com/2007/12/04/korean-culture-class-6-politeness-levels/#comment-2323 Wed, 05 Dec 2007 11:16:26 +0000 http://www.koreanclass101.com/2007/12/04/korean-culture-class-6-politeness-levels/#comment-2323 주문하신 홋케이크 나와습니다 --> 주문하신 핫케이크 나왔습니다. ^^ 주문하신 홋케이크 나와습니다

–> 주문하신 핫케이크 나왔습니다. ^^

]]> by: 선현우 http://www.koreanclass101.com/2007/12/04/korean-culture-class-6-politeness-levels/#comment-2322 Wed, 05 Dec 2007 11:16:00 +0000 http://www.koreanclass101.com/2007/12/04/korean-culture-class-6-politeness-levels/#comment-2322 오스틴 :D 맞아요. 동사(verb)에 "시"를 더하면 더욱 정중한(polite) 표현이 되죠. 갑니다 오스틴 :D

맞아요. 동사(verb)에 “시”를 더하면 더욱 정중한(polite) 표현이 되죠.

갑니다

]]> by: inyx http://www.koreanclass101.com/2007/12/04/korean-culture-class-6-politeness-levels/#comment-2309 Wed, 05 Dec 2007 03:10:36 +0000 http://www.koreanclass101.com/2007/12/04/korean-culture-class-6-politeness-levels/#comment-2309 oh gogo season 2! oh gogo season 2!

]]> by: 오스틴 http://www.koreanclass101.com/2007/12/04/korean-culture-class-6-politeness-levels/#comment-2308 Wed, 05 Dec 2007 02:50:56 +0000 http://www.koreanclass101.com/2007/12/04/korean-culture-class-6-politeness-levels/#comment-2308 ---> 주문하신 홋케이크 나와습니다 :oops: —> 주문하신 홋케이크 나와습니다 :oops:

]]> by: 오스틴 http://www.koreanclass101.com/2007/12/04/korean-culture-class-6-politeness-levels/#comment-2307 Wed, 05 Dec 2007 02:49:35 +0000 http://www.koreanclass101.com/2007/12/04/korean-culture-class-6-politeness-levels/#comment-2307 Good eye/ear inyx...here's mt 2 cents. Adding the 세 to ~해요 is respectful AND sort of like adding 'please' in English. But it is implicit for standard politeness in some cases: -You would never say 주요 (give me) even though it is 'polite'. Instead (주세요), (please give me) Adding 시 to ~합니다 is a way to talk about someone in the 2nd or third person respectfully. I hear this at McDondalds frequently (주무하신 홋케이크 나와습니다) "The hotcake you ordered came out." It would be OK to call it a 주문한 홋케이크 too, since that's what it is (lit. ordered hotcake) but because I'm the customer who reserves respect... :-) btw... correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that ~시 can be added in standard politeness level too Good eye/ear inyx…here’s mt 2 cents.

Adding the 세 to ~해요 is respectful AND sort of like adding ‘please’ in English.

But it is implicit for standard politeness in some cases:
-You would never say 주요 (give me) even though it is ‘polite’. Instead (주세요), (please give me)

Adding 시 to ~합니다 is a way to talk about someone in the 2nd or third person respectfully.

I hear this at McDondalds frequently (주무하신 홋케이크 나와습니다) “The hotcake you ordered came out.” It would be OK to call it a 주문한 홋케이크 too, since that’s what it is (lit. ordered hotcake) but because I’m the customer who reserves respect… :-)

btw… correct me if I’m wrong, but I think that ~시 can be added in standard politeness level too

]]> by: Keith http://www.koreanclass101.com/2007/12/04/korean-culture-class-6-politeness-levels/#comment-2306 Wed, 05 Dec 2007 02:42:34 +0000 http://www.koreanclass101.com/2007/12/04/korean-culture-class-6-politeness-levels/#comment-2306 iynx, actually there is a difference... the honorific infix (시) is used when respecting the person referred to in the sentence (sometimes, not the listener). it's a bit more advanced, so we plan on touching upon it in Beginner Lesson Season 2! :mrgreen: iynx, actually there is a difference… the honorific infix (시) is used when respecting the person referred to in the sentence (sometimes, not the listener).

it’s a bit more advanced, so we plan on touching upon it in Beginner Lesson Season 2! :mrgreen:

]]> by: inyx http://www.koreanclass101.com/2007/12/04/korean-culture-class-6-politeness-levels/#comment-2305 Wed, 05 Dec 2007 01:36:26 +0000 http://www.koreanclass101.com/2007/12/04/korean-culture-class-6-politeness-levels/#comment-2305 I don't know if you guy's touched on this, but is there a difference inside the levels too? Standard - 해요 and 하새요 Formal - 합니다 and 하십니다 I don’t know if you guy’s touched on this, but is there a difference inside the levels too?

Standard - 해요 and 하새요
Formal - 합니다 and 하십니다

]]> by: steved http://www.koreanclass101.com/2007/12/04/korean-culture-class-6-politeness-levels/#comment-2304 Wed, 05 Dec 2007 01:18:18 +0000 http://www.koreanclass101.com/2007/12/04/korean-culture-class-6-politeness-levels/#comment-2304 저기요. 있지 않아요. 징징거리기는요. 정말 쉬운것 같아요. :lol: 저기요. 있지 않아요. 징징거리기는요. 정말 쉬운것 같아요. :lol:

]]> by: Keith http://www.koreanclass101.com/2007/12/04/korean-culture-class-6-politeness-levels/#comment-2303 Wed, 05 Dec 2007 01:17:46 +0000 http://www.koreanclass101.com/2007/12/04/korean-culture-class-6-politeness-levels/#comment-2303 Sara, I agree... it's nice that there's no room to guess. But more than politeness levels, I think the tone of voice is the most important in terms of politeness :P Daniel, I have heard that, and it is slightly true... but I think that may be Korean maybe about 20 years ago. From what I've noticed, almost everyone, male and female use the standard politeness level for nearly everything these days. :grin: And I'm not totally sure about this, but I think some dialects in Korean use the formal politeness level more commonly... Sara, I agree… it’s nice that there’s no room to guess. But more than politeness levels, I think the tone of voice is the most important in terms of politeness :P

Daniel, I have heard that, and it is slightly true… but I think that may be Korean maybe about 20 years ago. From what I’ve noticed, almost everyone, male and female use the standard politeness level for nearly everything these days. :grin:

And I’m not totally sure about this, but I think some dialects in Korean use the formal politeness level more commonly…

]]> by: Daniel K http://www.koreanclass101.com/2007/12/04/korean-culture-class-6-politeness-levels/#comment-2298 Wed, 05 Dec 2007 00:04:10 +0000 http://www.koreanclass101.com/2007/12/04/korean-culture-class-6-politeness-levels/#comment-2298 Sometimes it can feel strange when someone uses too much politeness, when they don't have to. I was sitting in the park reading a couple months ago, when an older gentleman sat down near me and looked at my book. We had a conversation in a combination of English and Korean. When this man spoke to me in Korean, he used the most formal form of politeness-- and the honourific form of the verb! It made me feel a little uncomfortable, because I was so young. I know he was just being polite because it was our first time meeting, but still. In my first Korean book, it said the formal form is slightly more common among men. It also said that men should use it occasionally to sound more masculine. If you just use the standard politeness level too much, the book said your Korean might sound a bit effeminate. Anyone else heard that before? Sometimes it can feel strange when someone uses too much politeness, when they don’t have to. I was sitting in the park reading a couple months ago, when an older gentleman sat down near me and looked at my book. We had a conversation in a combination of English and Korean. When this man spoke to me in Korean, he used the most formal form of politeness– and the honourific form of the verb! It made me feel a little uncomfortable, because I was so young. I know he was just being polite because it was our first time meeting, but still.

In my first Korean book, it said the formal form is slightly more common among men. It also said that men should use it occasionally to sound more masculine. If you just use the standard politeness level too much, the book said your Korean might sound a bit effeminate. Anyone else heard that before?

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