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Learn Korean with KoreanClass101.com! Today we’re starting on our series of Culture Classes; and to start, we’re going to talked about age. Age plays an integral role in Korean society. Everyone is grouped according to the year they were born. And because everyone is regarded according to the year they were born, Koreans are always asking about age. Also, Koreans count age differently than many other cultures. According to Korean age, sometimes someone can be 2 years older than their actual age. Listen in and find out all about Koreans and age! And after listening, remember to stop by and leave us a post!

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This entry was posted on Tuesday, November 27th, 2007 at 6:30 pm and is filed under Korean Culture Class . You can follow any responses to this entry through the RSS 2.0 feed. You can leave a response, or trackback from your own site.

58 Responses to “Korean Culture Class #4 - Age”

KoreanClass101.com says:

What are your experiences with Koreans and age? Do Koreans ask you how old you are?

What is age to you and your culture?

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오스틴 says:

아싸! 나이가 25살 이는데…나의 동생이 됐어! 하하하… 그래서 형이나 선배 불해! :wink: 그녕 농담이야!

난 26살 이서 설는 내 누나 이예요

Finally I know a Korean man who is younger than me! All of my male co-workers are older than me, even though they have the same amount of work experience after college. I think that’s because of Army service. Most Korean men do that during college, so that delays their graduation for a couple years…. and of course, they count their age as being one or two years greater than it *really* is.

Alas, I can’t really be on the same level because of it. When one of the new teachers came, and introduced himself to the faculty the VERY first thing discussed was his age…and how he was born the same year as a 5th grade teacher. The very next topic was what month each was born in!

Age is important!

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Keith says:

오스틴… 형! ㅎㅎㅎ :mrgreen:

그럼 학교 선생님들 중에 제일 어리세요?
(So are you the youngest amongst the teachers in your school?)

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Jacqueline (쟈클린) says:

What a confusion i have now!
I only knew about adding 1 year to your real age, because in korea newborns are 1 year old.

But didn’t know of adding 2 years!!!!!!!!!! I didn’t understand this part. And is only some people that have to add 2 years??? or everybody if there is a calendar change?
If is only for some people, that’s not fair! LOL

Could someone explain more about when adding 2 years…

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Keith says:

Jacqueline, it gets confusing doesn’t it?? :lol:

So for example, if a baby is born December 30th.
Korean Age: 1 years old (because of time spent in the monther’s womb)

After New Years passes:
Korean Age: 2 years old (because everyone in Korea adds one year to their birhtday)

In other words, when your birthday passes, you don’t add a year to your age. Because you already did it after January 1st! :wink:

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사라 says:

I have a friend in Korea who was born a year before me and he has mentioned to me me that if we were in Korea it would be hard for us to be friends because of our age difference.

Is a 1 year difference really that big of a deal in friendships after high school and college?

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Jacqueline (쟈클린) says:

Thanks Keith for the explanation! :grin:

Korean age is crazy! :shock: Somebody has to change that! ㅋㅋㅋㅋ Goverment please, some law or something Lol! People protest!!!!!!

It’s incredible that if you were born on december 31, the day after you turn 2 years old!!!!!
it does’nt make sense!
Is people in korea Ok with that? they don’t complain?

I went to school (maternal) just days after i turned 2 years old, that’s impossible to that in korea. :grin:

It’s not fair for the people borned on december or the other months (for example me ,who was born on August :mrgreen: ) to be added a year in january 1. Lucky people those who were born on January 1 !hahahaha
That’s not fair!

저는 한국 나이가 싫어해요!!!! 너무 너무 너무 싫어해요 !ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ

hope i wrote that write ^^

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maxiewawa says:

One Korean guy at my uni embarassed himself a little at the beginning of every class. He had a habit of calling everyone older than him 姐姐 or 哥哥 (”older sister” or “older brother”). We told him that it just made us uncomfortable!

Another funny thing about age: the other day I asked my girlfriend the names of the girls in her class. I didn’t know any of them. Aika gave an embarassed smile and said “I don’t know either. I just call them all 언니/older sister”.

I can attest that when a large group of Koreans meet each other for the first time (like at the beginning of a semester) they all ask each other their birthdates, so they can work out who is older sister, who is younger sister etc.

I think that the confusion with how old you are is because the Korean/Chinese/Japanese method of saying how many 살/岁/歳 old you are doesn’t exactly translate to how many years old you are. When you ask a Korean/Chinese/Japanese how old he/she is they will reply with how many different years he/she has been around for.

So when a 韩/中/日 person says that he/she is “2″, you should probably take that to mean “I have been alive during two different calendar years” and not “I have been alive for two birthdays”.

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maxiewawa says:

It just occured to me that no-one “says” he/she is 2 because no one can talk when they are 2!

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선현우 says:

오스틴, :D

나이가 25살 이는데…
–> 나이가 25살이니까

그래서 형이나 선배 불해!
–> 형이나 선배라고 불러!

그녕 –> 그냥

26살 이서
–> 26살이니까

설는 내 누나 이예요
–> 설은 내 누나에요.

Jacqueline,
한국 나이가
–> 한국 나이를

:D

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선현우 says:

max, that’s right. it’s what a lot of (maybe most of) people do when they meet for the first time - figuring out whom to call 형/오빠/누나/언니 and whom to call 동생 :D

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선현우 says:

My birthday is on the 29 Dec, so I turned 2 years old when I was alive for 4 days!!! :D

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오스틴 says:

Keith,

I am the youngest male teacher. There are 3 others. The youngest of them were both born in 1980. I was born in 1982, so…. while they are still friendly towards me, as the whole age thing can be more loosely applied with foreigners, I think they still keep themselves a little bit separate. Although, another big reason is that they don’t speak English well….until a few hours into to 회식 that is…. :wink:

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james says:

I’m 25 in 한국나이. I don’t like this adding 2 yrs. thing :neutral: .
현우, we have the same birthday! :smile:
I was surprised to learn Keith was so young.

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Sindy 신디 says:

KC101/listeners! :wink:

Thank you for this Korean culture class about age! :cool:
오스틴 :wink: I am 23 American age so I add 1 and it’s equal to 24 Korean age. :mrgreen:
My birthday is June 2 so I just add 1 because I not from January. :lol:

Keith! :wink:
You are ok to be young, it’s better! :grin: S_R_C

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Keith says:

I’m not so young am i :lol: Oh well :D

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seoulsista says:

My birthday is December 19th 1983… so that means right now I’m 25????? :shock: :shock:

25 is ok! I’m young and refined :smile: :smile:

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seoulsista says:

and that means you’re the same age as I am Keith ;) what are we? tong ap?

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Keith says:

yea! Seoulsista, we’re 동갑 (donggap)! That means we’re two steps closer to friendship! :grin:

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선현우 says:

Seoulsista, your birthday is approaching too! haha. :-) 미리(in advance) 생일 축하해요.

James! 생일이 저랑 똑같아요! 하하. In Korea, since everybody ages at the same time, I always feel like(and I am in fact) the youngest among all the people who have the same (Korean) age as me. :D

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Taliana says:

Oh my god, confused XD I already knew about 1 year old when you’re born, and adding another year when the year changes, but all that about going to school with the people from the year before just completely killed my brain!

Pretty cool to know I’m about the same age as Keith though ^^ I was born in 1983 too.

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Daniel K says:

I’m still amazed at how stringent the age divisions in Korean society can be. Is a one-year difference really that much? What happens if you move cities, losing immediate touch with your school alumni association? It must be hard to make friends in your new city if you can only associate with people exactly in your year.

I guess being a foreigner here comes with certain advantages! :)

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Keith says:

it’s not as rigid as it might seem :) I have friends older than me, younger than me, and we hang out just like any friends do. but being the same age… it’s almost expected that we should be friends… :P

and just for some quick information about age, apparently, the Japanese also counted one year in the mother’s womb as 1 year of your life. But they no longer do that.

I wonder if the Chinese did that as well? Anyone know?

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Henry says:

This has cleared a bit more of what I was hoping for, but I’m still confused.

So when you’re born, you’re already a year old. then you add another year because why? my birthday isn’t december 31st or anything, but I’m confused. Why would you add another year after january passes? does everyone do that when the year passes? wouldn’t that make everyone 2 years older? why is is that the people before jan. 1 add two? can someone please clarify?

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Keith says:

Henry, I understand, it can get a little confusing!

Everyone is 2 years older than their birth date. The first extra year is when you’re born. So everyone has 1 year added onto their age from the beginning. The other extra year comes January 1st, regardless of my birthday. Then after my birthday passes, it’s only 1 year extra that’s added on (because of the time I spent in my mother’s womb).

So, in Korea, birthday’s are irrelevant when counting age in the Korean system. It’s the year that matters.

I hope this cleared everything up! :razz:

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roxanne says:

quite confusing…i get the part where you add an extra year from the start..what i dont get is after jan 1st you add another year..wont that double up your age if you keep doing that every year?..or do you just add it the year after you’re born?..sooooooooo confused…. i think i’ll stick with the year instead of age..

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오스틴 says:

Roxanne.. you’re right. You only start with 1, and from then on you only add a year at New Years. Otherwise, people would be TWICE as old as they really were! ^^

In western age, we start with 0 and add 1 at the actual birthday. In Korean age, you start with 1 and add a year at New Years

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선현우(Hyunwoo Sun) says:

Yeah… :-) Just like what Austin said, just one year at a time, but just the starting point is different :-) We start from one year old.

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roxanne says:

oh ok..i get it..thank you for explaining!..so do koreans still celebrate their real birthdays?..

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선현우(Hyunwoo Sun) says:

Roxanne, yes, we still celebrate our real 생일(birthdays) too :-)

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Same Sky Magazine » Why Koreans Get Younger When They Leave Korea says:

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rae says:

whoa. so confusing….i’m born in february …does that mean i add 1 year to my age?

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Keith says:

Rae… your age depends on the year you were born. Simply take the current year, and count the difference between the year you were born. And then all you have to do is +1. There’s your Korean age!

ex:

If I was born in 1970. Now it’s 2008. That would be 38 years old. +1 = 39 (in Korean age of course!). :smile:

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Alex says:

I LOVE this part of the Korean language! I have lots of Korean friends, and I never have to worry about knowing their names! I just call them all Noona or Hyung;) But, it’s also fun to find out when someone is donggap or chingu! I’ve noticed those people instantly are easier to become friends with. It’s amazing how age has such an impact on your social networks.

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Keith says:

I agree Alex… I’m not so good with names all the time. And simply just having to call someone noona of hyung is great! Problem is when someone is the same age or younger than you!

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Camila says:

No wonder korean celebrities look so young for their age :mrgreen:

So… i was born on Sept 28, 1988… This means im 19 right now (western age) I add 1 year so 20 then because of the lunar year thing i add 1 again so im 21 turning 22!!! :sad: waaaaahhh im soo old :oops:

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선현우(Hyunwoo Sun) says:

Haha :)

카밀라, same here. The Korean system is good at times because you don’t need to know someone’s birthday to know how old they are :) But I like to say I’m 27 than to say I’m 29 because then I’d be 30 next year :mrgreen:

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ouija says:

woah woah woah. that information was new for me. i only accidentally saw this info:

“name”, “20″, in Korean age: 21

so i was surprised and became interested about it.

by the way, what is my korean age, if you don’t mind my asking? i was born on august 29, 1994. :grin:

thanks for the informations again! merry christmas everyone.

-ouija.

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Austin (오민) says:

@ouija

Right now, you’re 15!

But in about 14 days you’ll be 16!

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선현우 says:

:D

oujia :) Yes, like Austin said, you’re 15 ^^ and on the first day of 2009 you’ll be 16 in Korea ^^

Merry Christmas to you too! and to you, Austin, too! :D

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ouija says:

wow. what was.. really surprising, i think. :lol:
imagine, in almost two weeks, i would be 16, when my real age is 14! :D

but, is it really a part of their law, or just pure tradition?
why do they agree to that age system?…

anyway, thank you 선현우 and 오민 for that information.

just the same, have a happy christmas everyone!

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Austin (오민) says:

@ouija,

The Korean age is the age that you’d use in most situations. When someone asks how old you are.. you almost always answer with your 한국나이 Korean age. So, yes it is your legal age…

BUT.

For things like being a legal adult (one who can buy alcohol, or get a driver’s license, etc) they use your actual calendar age calculated like in the West. It’s called 만.

저는 만 26살입니다 - I am 26 in western age, or based on my actual birthday

저는 (한국나이로) 27살입니다 - I am 27 (in Korean age)

If you just tell a Korean what your age is, they will 9 times out of 10 assume you are telling them in 한국나이 so if you want to be specific, you need to explain further!

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ouija says:

haha. thanks again for the information! :smile:
now i am learning the cultures of different countries!

can you tell me other cultures of the other countries, if you know some?
i’ll appreciate it more if it is about the japanese.
because i am a japanese addict. :grin:

by the way, can anyone teach me to spek in different asian languages?
thank you in advance! :D

once again, thanks austin! :wink:

-ouija.

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현우 says:

In Japan the age system is the same as the international system :) So no particular age difference when you go to Japan :)

If you’re learning 日本語 as well, you can head over to http://japanesepod101.com ^_^

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ouija says:

wow. thanks for the link!
i’m so sorry i didn’t reply quickly, because i had a vacation. :wink:

have a prosperous new year to all! :smile:

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The KoreanClass101.com Blog says:

[…] But before I get into this, I’ll have to apologize for beating a dead horse. This topic has been covered in countless blogs, forums, and usually tops a beginner’s guide to Korean culture. Of course, the good people here at KC101 covered this topic in Culture Class #4. So, why is it so hard to understand sometimes? And more importantly why break the mold? Why does Korea differ in how age is recorded? […]

geygey says:

I still don’t get it ! If I’m born in 10 -03- 1992, how old I am ?

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선현우(Hyunwoo Sun) says:

geygey, :)

Then you are 18 years old in Korean age :)
(=한국 나이로 18살이에요)

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geygey says:

thank you for the answer. so I’m 18 , yeeeeeeeey , i grown up :) ) :D

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Haruhi21 says:

uhm.. can someone explain it to me? I’m really confused and I read all of the comments but I still don’t get it.. pls. I want to understand Korean age…

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Austin (오민) says:

@Haruhi21.. I know it gets complicated! :mrgreen:

Can you tell us what part of it you are confused about?

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Haruhi21 says:

everything…. like i understand the 1 age adding but i dont get the 2 years of age adding part….

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Austin (오민) says:

OK…

2 years are added if:
-it is past January 1, AND
-you haven’t had your western calendar birthday yet.

Another way to think about it:

To find your age you can subtract your birth year from the current year -
for me (2009 - 1982) = 27 (this is only true if I’ve had my birthday though. Otherwise, this number is the western age I’ll become this year)

But, I have indeed already had my birthday, (February) so I am 27 here, but I’ll add one year to get my Korean age (28). Then in January, my Korean age will click over, (29) - but I’m still 27 in western age until February.

The formula for finding your Korean age (which will always work) is:

current year - birth year + 1

Does that help?

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Elena says:

This explanation helps a lot. Therefore, using your terrific formula, is my understanding correct: Depending on whether one has had a birthday in the current year or not, in Korean age one will either be one or two years older than one’s western age. Only one formula is needed. If this is correct, I finally understand!

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Austin (오민) says:

@Elena

You got it!

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Neat Facts About Korea! // 한국에 대한 재미있는 사실! « Hallyu Honeys // 한류허니스 says:

[…] **** In Korea, you are considered 1yrs old when you are born and your age increases on the new year, not your actual birth date [SOURCE] […]

hazellynn says:

hye..i really interested in learning about all this korean thingy..but the fact is my knowledge about korean is zero. :roll:
could you guys please tell me how did you guys learn to type in korean languange and stuff about korea?? please!!really glad is there’s someone to help me.. :oops: :oops: :oops:

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