Comments on: Pilot Lesson #2 - Idioms and Phrases

by: The KoreanClass101.com Blog

Fri, 28 Mar 2008 09:57:56 +0000

[…] –At this point they might run away…. to another room, so I chase after them, capture them, and carry them to the door while they scream– Bratty kid: 아 찐자…먹기 싫다고! Ah, really! I said I don’t want to eat! Austin: 너 빨리 안가? 오늘 왜 그래? 니가 청개구리 같아! 신발 신어! Get moving! What’s with you today? You’re being a real brat! Put your shoes on! Bratty kid: 신발 없거든! I don’t have any shoes! Austin: 거짓말! 오늘 학교 안 갔어? 학교 갈때는 신발 안 신았어? That’s a lie. Didn’t you go to school today? Weren’t you wearing shoes then? Bratty kid: 신았는데 지금 어딘지 몰라! I wore them, but I don’t know where they are now! […]

by: The KoreanClass101.com Blog

Thu, 06 Mar 2008 10:12:58 +0000

[…] For some reason only the 4th grade boys had to do this…but can you recognize the boy in the chair reading a book? That’s 이나라. If you are relatively new to KClass you might not remember this lesson from several months ago which inspired me to make this video. Yes, 나라 is still not listening! […]

by: 존

Wed, 05 Dec 2007 00:21:17 +0000

oh and I did finally get this lesson downloaded thru iTunes.

by: 존

Wed, 05 Dec 2007 00:20:18 +0000

I bought this book http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0930878922/ref=olp_product_details?ie=UTF8&me=&seller= seller= from amazon.com, and it had a bonus story in it…”The little frog who never listened”. or “말 안듣는 청개구리”…I was pleasantly surprised.

by: The KoreanClass101.com Blog

Fri, 09 Nov 2007 10:04:11 +0000

[…] If you remember the idiom pilot lesson from this week we learned about a 청개구리. Since the boys at the orphanage can be pretty disobedient, I thought I’d ask them about this word. If you go to the actual YouTube page, you can see a rough English transcript in the video description. […]

by: steved

Wed, 07 Nov 2007 16:05:17 +0000

Nice video Austin. It looks like you had a good time making it.

by: 선현우

Wed, 07 Nov 2007 15:41:30 +0000

I got it too 저도 받았어요~

by: 오스틴

Wed, 07 Nov 2007 15:32:37 +0000

odd.. it did eventually come though on my end

by: 존

Wed, 07 Nov 2007 15:16:08 +0000

for some reason this lesson never did download thru iTunes….newbie #10 did though.

by: 오스틴

Wed, 07 Nov 2007 13:57:48 +0000

For a great laugh..find out what happens with some of the kids I work with when we talk about who the 청개구리 is…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMRA86T7dL4

by: Keith

Wed, 07 Nov 2007 06:21:34 +0000

Steved, I tend to think that Korean idiomatic expressions are not used any more than their English counterparts. This specific idiomatic phrase “청개구리” is almost like a phrase that every Korean family knows and uses. So this one is probably one of the most commonly used ones out there.

Maxie, we do intend to use much more Korean as the lessons move on. Apart from Newbie and Beginner, we should be using much more Korean

seoulsista, glad you enjoyed the lesson. This phrases usage is 99% referring to the relationship between a parent and a child.

by: seoulsista

Wed, 07 Nov 2007 06:14:34 +0000

I liked this lesson a lot. Very very cute

Can you say this to your friends? Or is it just for parents to their children?

by: maxiewawa

Wed, 07 Nov 2007 03:34:00 +0000

A good lesson! I think for the next one you can take off the “pilot” label.

I’m finding that I’m learning more from listening to the two intermediate lessons over and over than from the beginner/newbie lessons. In the easier lessons, there’s only one thing that is to be learned, but in intermediate lessons each time I listen I learn something different.

Was this the first lesson that we heard 세얼선셍님 (sorry, not sure ’bout spelling!) speak such a long passage of Korean? I liked it!

by: 선현우

Wed, 07 Nov 2007 01:50:53 +0000

Yeah, the son’s voice was very cute but he’s a real 청개구리 ㅋㅋ

by: steved

Wed, 07 Nov 2007 01:39:37 +0000

I really enjoyed this lesson. It wasn’t difficult and it reminded me of the 청개구리 story that I had heard before and forgotten. Thank you to the bonus track for reminding me of a great folk tale.
In my experience idiomatic expressions in English tend to be over used by foreign learners (of English). Is this because they are prevalent in Korean daily speech or would a foreign learner of Korean sound awkward if his speech were full of these expressions?

by: 오스틴

Wed, 07 Nov 2007 01:37:27 +0000

No… 청개구리 was a new one… and actually I had to listen to the bonus track to get the meaning my first guess was something like “sweet tooth” but I like this meaning better.

I’m going to make a video tonight at the orphanage and ask which one of those kids is the 청개구리 (in my opinion, they all are!)

by: Keith

Wed, 07 Nov 2007 01:14:53 +0000

Hi all! Thanks for the feedback!

The frog sound effects was a little confusing! Sorry about that, we didn’t realize how confusing that was until post-production!

Austin, thanks for the compliments Did you already know what 청개구리 means?

Ann Marie, thanks for the idea on the bell sound. Having one consistent sound for any idiom or phrase of the day should be much easier to recognize

Daniel, we intend to keep these dialogs fairly simple, but not too simple. We want to introduce vocab words and grammar points, but at the same time, focus on the idiom or phrase of the day.

Was anyone able to get the idiom or phrase before they heard the bonus track??
Who was a 청개구리 when they were younger?

by: Daniel K

Wed, 07 Nov 2007 00:57:39 +0000

Yeah, nice lesson. I didn’t understand all of it the first time, simply because there was some new vocabulary. But, in general, the dialogue was pretty simple. Should it be a little more difficult in the future…?

I also agree that it’s good you separated the idiom explanation from the rest of the lesson, and I also agree with Austin that the “day-to-day usage” explanations are very useful.

by: Sara

Tue, 06 Nov 2007 19:02:37 +0000

Great lesson! I was a little confused by the frog croaks at first too.. but after reading the pdf and listening a few more times it made more sense.

I love the 아, 왜?! by the son ^-^

by: 존

Tue, 06 Nov 2007 15:26:24 +0000

Yeah, but I am not worried, it will update eventually.

by: Eran

Tue, 06 Nov 2007 15:16:02 +0000

Hmmm… the lesson is downloading fine for me on iTunes. Did you guys try right clicking on the Podcast title and selecting “Update Podcast”?

by: 존

Tue, 06 Nov 2007 15:07:19 +0000

It’s not downloading from I-tunes for me either….yet.

by: 오스틴

Tue, 06 Nov 2007 13:48:39 +0000

And… iTunes didn’t download the file yet…anyone else having the same problem?

by: Ann Marie (Yoon-young)

Tue, 06 Nov 2007 13:34:03 +0000

I was also confused about the frog croaks. Perhaps an opening sound (e.g. bell) followed by the idiom, followed by an ending sound (e.g. two bells) would help me tell which part of the conversation involved an idiom.

Otherwise, the lesson was great. I plan on having children and these are all useful phrases that I’m sure I’ll be making good use of in the future.

by: 오스틴

Tue, 06 Nov 2007 12:56:22 +0000

This was great, and I think it’s a good idea to split the explanation from the rest of the lesson. But I was a little confused about all of the frog croaks during the dialog. I was expecting one near the idiom, but the frog was croaking a lot before the idiom was said!

This lesson is yet another example of how you are teaching REAL Korean. Using the intimate politeness level, The mother using ~지, even explaining how some pronunciations sound “cuter” and are more for women. Those are just a few examples of things that are rarely taught in other settings.